Winning More Trades
In Lesson #2: Forex Money Management, I said that you need to have at least 2:1 risk/reward ratio (for example if you are risking 10 pips your goal is at least 20 pips). I called this money management technique the “backbone to successful forex trading”. But what I hear a lot of is: “Ok, 2:1 ratio is great, but what if I’m not winning 33% of my trades??”
I recently got a great question that summed this up from a piphutter on my original money management article that it sparked me to write an entirely new article for you regarding how to win more of your trades.
Below is the trader’s question regarding money management:
“Hi Mark,
What people don’t mention is the perils of a volatile and jumpy market conditions, and I find that the strict rule of the thumb risk/reward ratio, can actually go against you.
If for example you are trading 2:1 or even 4:1 per trade and you religiously stick to this whatever the outcome of any given trade – each loss reduces the account balance. Your next trade/s set at the same level are therefore 2:1 or 4:1 of a lower balance…
I am finding that in many cases, especially of late, it is more prudent to accept a lower reward and a higher risk, to profit in a trade that is positioned correctly in the normal expected move of the market… I know that every trader has experienced this and I am interested to know your views and methods to you resolve such a position?
Kind regards”
Basically he is saying “It seems like I would win more trades with a 1:1 ratio – what gives??”
Here is my respose for you all:
It is a good question and a healthy one to ask yourself. The quick and dirty answer is that you need to look at the long term picture. In the short term a 1:1 ratio or less may mean you win more trades but eventually, when the market starts behaving differently, you will start losing money. Don’t forget, the whole reason for using proper money management is because with a 1:1 risk/reward ratio you have to win 50% of your trades to break even. At 2:1 risk/reward ratio you only have to win 33% of your trades to break even!
What you more than likely need to focus on is winning more trades in the short term, and being more selective about the positions you take.
So how can you win a large percentage of your trades?
- Basically it is a combination of risk reduction techniques – reduce the risk, and you increase the odds that your trades will be successful. I can make bad or even borderline trades all day. I can analyze, draw support and resistance and check the slow stochastics but if my analysis isn’t correct, or other traders are buying or selling off different criteria. I’ll give you a variety of techniques I know other traders use and what I prefer myself. It starts with the basic up to the more advanced:
- Use larger time frames – the larger the time frame, the better the signal. At larger time frames the price action is more relevant, technical indicators such as RSI, slow SS and others produce better signals. Big money, or “smart money” is what moves markets. And smart money is not looking at the 30 minute chart. They are looking at the daily or higher. I prefer the 4 hour chart because it generally gives you the same picture as the daily while also giving you better entry and exit points and produces enough signals while still being reliable.
- Place stops above or below major support and resistance levels. I’ve even heard of traders waiting until just a few pips before where they would have wanted their stop. This method produces fewer trades (often the price never reaches the level) but the trades are generally more profitable. Also, make sure you are looking at larger timeframe charts for your support and resistance. What might look like support on the 1 hour chart might not be support at all on the daily chart.
- Take a look at the ATR if volatility is the issue. The ATR, or average true range shows you the volatility, or range, of any pair on any given time frame. If the ATR shows a range of 25 pips. Make sure your stop is at least 30 pips (to include the spread) from the support/resistance, or from wherever you expect the pair to turn around.
- Use a Micro Account – if you are struggling with using a 50 pip stop with a standard lot (1 pip=$10 so a 50 pip stop is $500) then use a micro account. Many brokers offer micro accounts – not all, but many – and 1 lot in a micro account is 1/10 the size. If 1 pip is only $1 then a 50 pip stop would only be $50.. That way you can have that 50 pip or 100 pip stop and only risk $50 or $100. Your profits are also more limited – but if it is the difference between profitability and debt then take profitability any day!
- Multiple lots - a strategy that I use frequently and I know other traders do to is to use multiple lots. If your stop loss is 30 for both of them then set the take profit (or limit) on the first lot to 30 pips as well. If and when the first goal is reached and the first lot closes for a profit of 30 pips move the stop loss on the second lot to break even. Now you are guaranteed 30 pips profit and you now have a lot that is 30 pips in the profit that you can let run!
- Use entry orders – catch your pair moving in the right direction! Another way of saying this is “don’t stand in the way of a freight train!” If you are trying to catch a reversal don’t buy it on the way up! If it has shown no sign of reversal then why would you sell a pair that is on the way up? You will quickly find yourself underwater. This alone is what my breakout strategy consists of. I often will place a buy order above resistance (or sell order below support) because I know if major support or resistance is broken you will usually see a 30-40 pip run.
- Use a demo account – if you get a string of losses and you feel your confidence waning don’t beat your head against the wall and keep risking your money on a system that might be flawed. Boot up that demo account and demo trade for awhile until you see a return to consistent profits. Make sure you journal your trades and revisit them so you can see what you are doing well and what you still have to work at.
There are more but in the end it boils down to this: simply using a 2:1 ratio isn’t enough if your trades are great trades to begin with. But I believe Ed Ponsi said it best with something to the effect of this: If you can only enter trades that you feel are so great that they look like absolute no brainers – you will succeed.
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As always trading in the foreign exchange market is a risky business. The above lesson is just my opinion – you should always consider your goals and consult a financial professional before investing your money.


November 24, 2008 at 07:47
thanks for the article .please if you know any method i can use in getting sure 20 pips a day i will be glad if you share it with me on nuttyizecube04@yahoo.com.thanks
November 24, 2008 at 19:44
I entirely agree with Mark in his money management techniques.
The system that I trade is based on diag channeling prices on the 10m charts. I only sell at diag channel resistance levels of the day and I only buy at diag channel support. I have found that when I am right, I am banking 30+ pips and when I am wrong I normally get out with a 10 pip loss, or break even.
I feel that traders in general have a “need” to be in the markets at all times. This I feel, because I was once a trader who felt this need daily. The forex market rewards patience. I always ask myself “Do I want to wait 2 hours for the money bus that all of the pros will be on? Or do I want to wait 20 seconds to hop on the bus with the rest of the “get rich quick sheep” that are constantly bombarding the forex market with emotion. Taking a step back, and asking the question of “Where are the pros looking today to trade” always has its rewards.
Thank you so much Mark for this great site!
September 4, 2009 at 08:17
i have checked on a demo and I ca not find any difference between an account with leverage 1:100 and 1:400. In both accounts a stop loss of 20 pips are the same. Do you mean the lot size when you mentioned “if you are struggling with using a 50 pip stop with 100:1 leverage (50 pips with 100:1 leverage is $500) then use 50:1 or 10:1 (micro account) leverage instead. That way you can have that 50 pip or 100 pip stop and only risk $50 or $100″
September 4, 2009 at 13:22
Sorry that’s not worded very clearly. What it should say is that if you are struggling with a 50 pip stop then use a MICRO account. With micro accounts lots=10,000, not 100,000 so 1 pip is $1 instead of $10 for a standard lot.
September 7, 2009 at 07:52
when do I know a ranging market and a volatile market
September 17, 2009 at 08:11
Not sure if this is covered already under 5., but you could also use a strategy where you buy/sell units (i.e. 100,000), then once the pair breaks the first resistance/support, you sell/buy a specific amount i.e. 50,000 and move your stop up, so that you are still in the trade with 50,000 but already made a profit and so on.
Is this also covered in your strategy?
It would be great if you can add several profit target numbers to your signals according to this strategy.
September 17, 2009 at 14:19
Andy, yes that is what #5 is all about. So instead of multiple lots you could close a portion of your position in the profit. Most of my signals already have multiple targets – under “Trading Idea” at the bottom it will usually say something like “longs favored to 1.4600, 1.4645 and 1.4695″. Those are all different targets.
September 26, 2009 at 09:48
“Multiple lots – a strategy that I use frequently and I know other traders do to is to use multiple lots. If your stop loss is 30 for both of them then set the take profit (or limit) on the first lot to 30 pips as well.”- From the above statements it means that you are using a stops loss of 60 pips for both lots, should the 60 pips for both lots be equivalent to 2% of your balance? Or should only 30 pips be equivalent to 2% of your balance?
October 19, 2009 at 15:15
“reduce the risk, and you increase the odds that your trades will be successful…” – I would argue this point.
What “reducing the risk” means? Well, reducing the stop loss size, right? But this in fact can lead to you DECREASING the odds your trade will be successful. How many of us experienced the price hitting a stop loss, then turning around just several pips after and hitting our target… without us? Everyone, I think. And how many of us were saying: “if I only set the stop loss some pips BIGGER, I would win that trade…”
How would you address this, Mark?
October 19, 2009 at 15:21
Anton, all of the points listed in the article are about reducing risk. Examples are using larger time frames, practicing on a demo account, using entry orders to take emotion out, use ATR to gauge volatility.
In the article above I’m not just talking about the size of your stop loss (though that is a key component) – I’m talking about taking smarter and better trades to begin with. It is about being prepared and confident in your trading decisions.
By making smarter decisions (through the points listed in the article) you are increasing your chances of a successful trade – the whole point of the article
June 2, 2010 at 04:07
Hi Mark,
Can you please tell us how to use ATR. Have heard a lot about it for checking volatility and also stop losses. But am not able to find a good material, so that i can start and use it.
Regards,
sonal
July 3, 2010 at 16:06
@PIPHUT. point #6 is a typical example of what took place on th 1st of july, i wish av read this article before now and i wish a lot of th members too were aware of this point also, we will not av suffered the losses made on that move and perhaps we may have enjoyed part of the profit also. however, i still dnt get #5 very well, ineed a clarer clarification on this in particular. gret work again. i pray God keeps you and your family for us forever. amen.
August 2, 2010 at 14:58
Being new to forex trading i will definitly consider a micro account for now as this makes more sense for a beginner, the info on multiple lots makes also more sense now if you are sure of the direction of the pair. thanks
September 18, 2010 at 23:26
” I often will place a buy order above resistance (or sell order below support) because I know if major support or resistance is broken you will usually see a 30-40 pip run”
Thanks for this comment..It is actually a confirmation of my observation as well. Loads of thx for the good work..
October 6, 2010 at 09:07
from my experience so far;it’s logical to move your stop order to break even when there are so many resistance up there or down there to be broken blw 5 and 6 pips so that if the price action hit your stop order at break even you lose nothing.that’s my own opinion,i may be wrong and you could enhance my understanding.thanks
November 6, 2010 at 17:07
price often breaks through its support/resistance a few pips then reverses and continues in its original direction
April 16, 2011 at 14:58
“I often will place a buy order above resistance (or sell order below support) because I know if major support or resistance is broken you will usually see a 30-40 pip run”
Mark do you mean that when a resistance is broken you usually see a little 30 pips run independantly of the fact that
- it is a real breakout that will continue up to the next resistance/support
- or a false breakout that will reverse quickly
Just to fully understand, thanks in advance and congratulation for your site,very helpful!!
April 16, 2011 at 17:44
Hi @xolo, frequently for MAJOR S/R (4h, daily, weekly that has been tested at least twice) when it is broken we will see a *pop* in the direction of the break. We call this a “breakout trade”
April 16, 2011 at 18:05
Thank you mark. So even if then it is retracing. This is good to know.